Hungry for meaning: Why there is no conflict between science and spirituality | Rob Bell

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Ah, yes. That word: “spiritual”. I think the reason why many people run away
from it is because lots of what has been done in the name of spiritual or spirituality has
been completely crazy. So the problem with that word is it’s easy
for a lot of really bizarre unfounded—sometimes even destructive and toxic—ideas can hang
out under this word spiritual because you’re talking essentially about that which isn’t
accessed through the five senses. When somebody says, “Well, I just had a
spiritual feeling.” Well, you can’t really put that on a spreadsheet. You can’t really take a picture of that. My understanding of spirituality is that this
life that we’ve each been given, the very breath that we took and we’re about to take,
is a gift. That life is a gift and how you respond to
it, what you do with it matters. So you’ll find in a business people working
very hard and making lots of money and yet at some point asking these questions like,
what is the point of what we’re doing? Why are we here? Why are we giving this kind of energy to this? Which is fundamentally a spiritual question,
because the answer to that question won’t show up in the second quarter financials,
and yet why people get up in the morning and come work here is the driving question behind
the question behind the question. So I begin with life is a gift and what you
do with it, how you respond to it matters. And when we talk about it mattering we are
talking about something that’s true but can’t be accessed in the ways that we normally
access things. And I think a lot of scientists have run from
the word spiritual because a scientist deals with hard facts. And when you get into language of the heart,
language of the soul, when you start talking about transcendence you are talking about
more than literal truth. So like if somebody asks me why I fell in
love with my wife and I said, “Well because she’s five seven, she’s from Arizona and
she drives a Honda,” that’s kind of a weird answer. But if you say to me “Why’d you fall in
love with your wife?” and I said, “I fell in love with Kristen because when we got together
it was like I found my other half.” Something within you is like okay, now that’s
an answer that I get. I understand that answer. And yet it’s not like I was limping. It’s not like suddenly I actually literally
found my other half. I shifted to a different kind of language
to describe a different kind of reality. And so oftentimes in my experience the scientist
is fine with spirituality when we understand the terms that we’re working with. This idea somehow that faith and science are
at opposition I’ve always found to be complete insanity. Both are searching for the truth. Both have a sense of wonder and an expectation
and exploration. They’re each simply naming different aspects
of the human experience. One thrives in naming exteriors – height,
weight, gravitational pull, electromagnetic force. The other is about naming interiors – compassion,
kindness, suffering, loss, heartache. They’re both simply different ways of exploring
different dimensions of the human experience. Well if you think about the past like let’s
say 300-400 years of human history, especially the history of the Western world we’ve had
this explosion. Some call it the age of certainty, the explosion
of scientific rationalism. I mean we have 10,000 songs in our pockets. We have airports and hospitals. We don’t have polio anymore. I mean we have had this explosion of rational,
stand-at-a-distance and study and analyze it with a clipboard and a lab coat—I guess
now it would be an iPad—But we’ve had this explosion of knowledge about how the
world actually works. And so for many people this rational, linear,
scientific thinking has done so much that it sort of stepped on and crowded out other
ways of knowing things. Because I was doing this event recently and
a woman came up afterwards and she had a child in one of those little packs that you carry
a child around. And it was a Saturday, and she said, “Yesterday
I found out that my child’s been diagnosed with MS.” And then she turns and walks away. There isn’t a formula or a theorem to name
what she’s going through. What she needs is a poem. She needs a prayer, a liturgy, a song. She needs a ritual. You light a candle. You sit in silence with somebody. When it comes to grief, pain, loss, heartbreak,
euphoria, joy, ecstasy, the lab and the microscope and the data aren’t as helpful. So I think what’s happening in the modern
age is people are realizing we’ve built this extraordinary gleaming modern world and
yet we’re more hungry and thirsty for meaning than ever. So I think that’s what’s happening is
we have more than any human beings ever had in the history of the world and yet the same
questions are still gnawing at the soul. What’s it mean? What are we doing here? Where is joy found? Everything is driven by the desire to know
the truth. There’s an exploration. There’s a wide eyed sense of wonder. If you talk to the best scientists they have
this sort of gleam in their eye like, “this is what we’re learning and we don’t know
what’s actually around the corner.” And if you talk to the best theologians and
poets and scholars they ideally have the same gleam in their eye, which is, “Look what
we’re learning, look what we’re exploring.” And so to me they’re not enemies. They’re long lost dance partners. And I actually think what’s happening right
now is if you and I are in opposition, if we have some sort of fight and we turn and
walk away from each other, if we walk away from each other long enough we’ll probably
go around the globe and we’ll meet up on the other side. And so I think for many people, especially
religious people who were raised with this sort of faith and religion going in opposite
directions, I think what’s happening is they’re coming back around and we’re realizing
these are all ways of exploring different dimensions of the human experience.

 

100 Responses

  1. August Greig

    April 10, 2018 6:53 pm

    To all of you zealous science people here, let me just ask you this: Do you believe that human beings are the highest lifeforms in the universe? That we are the best it can get? Science is based off of our subjective observations as humans, that's all. Yes, it is very useful for many things, but to deny that there are things in the universe that we CAN'T observe or even comprehend if we could, is pure hubris.

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  2. Rand Huso

    April 10, 2018 7:02 pm

    That which makes sense is in the bailiwick of "science", and that which plays with our ancestral superstitions is emotional – but I wouldn't use the word "spirituality" because it leans toward religion, and we all know that religion is wrong on all counts.

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  3. Pontus Wikståhl

    April 10, 2018 7:03 pm

    Of course science and spirituality can exist on the individual level but can it be a part of the science community? I would say no, because science is based on falsifiability, while spirituality is not.

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  4. xXThe FETTXx

    April 10, 2018 7:09 pm

    It's funny when he mentions that there are "toxic ideas" surrounding spirituality when spirituality itself is a toxic idea. The moment you plug "God did it" into any scientific equation, you are forgoing the scientific method and ignoring logic. Anyone who says that faith and science can coexist is living in the same fantasy where a God created everything because we can't come from nothing, but the being that created everything somehow can…

    This isn't a direct knock on spirituality. If you want to believe in a higher power that is your decision to do so, and if it makes you happy then go for it, but this is just being honest. The only people who believe that there is any faith in science are the ones trying to force faith into science. If science was based off of faith, scientist would be casting spells…

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  5. Migg

    April 10, 2018 8:14 pm

    Life is about balance.
    We came from an age of myth and have reached the age of science.
    We're still in the process of finding our balance.

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  6. Tom Pinion

    April 10, 2018 8:20 pm

    Both science and spirituality seek out truth and answers and adjust as new knowledge is attained.
    This is opposed to organized religion that claims to already have the answers and looks at science and education as threats.

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  7. vakuzar

    April 10, 2018 8:48 pm

    Big think is exploring new ideas, excellent, right ,left or other. I personally want to find out what the world is thinking and be exposed to ideas I am not currently exposed to. Thank you for adding new variety and view points

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  8. nishiki

    April 10, 2018 9:33 pm

    Compassion, understanding, connecting to our insides, etc, is pretty much NEVER best served by believing in mass delusions centered around a “God”. There is merit to much of what you said, and it is important for humans to have a spiritual element, a connection to meaning bigger than themselves, etc…. but that is better served by connecting to the earth, nature, the universe, cosmic energy, brotherhood and fellowship, etc… but that does not need to and is not best served when that is centered around a made up fable. Just stop it people, it is so ridiculous to believe in any “god”. I agree, if it is grandma or grandpa or whatever, and they believe in some God, then OK, probably just best to ride it out and let them go in peace, or situations like that, but I sure wish younger and healthier people would use their brain for what it was made for…. reason and logic. We can all do more good and be more efficient doing good if we understand and accept the world as it is rather than what we would like it to be…. the actual quote by Carl Sagan: “It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring”…. I would love to have some fantasy good Diety to believe in too, but I can’t simply because it is convenient. I would also like to not just die when I die…. but sadly, that appears to be reality. I think what much of religion really boils down to is simply a natural fear of death. Only…. believing in a delusion and fantasty doesn’t REALLY do much for you. Most religious people are still plenty afraid of death because deep down in their heart, they cannot deceive their at least halfway logical and rational brain.

    Anyway, these type of wish washy videos really irritate me because they conflate and equalize everything…. false equivalence.

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  9. beastie b91

    April 10, 2018 9:35 pm

    Meaning is how strongly emotional you feel about something. The triggers and strength of emotions can be turned into scientific questions with scientific answers. The only thing that is irreducible (to me) are the qualia; why does sadness feel like sadness, why does a grape taste different than a steak, that sort of thing.

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  10. Delber Medina

    April 10, 2018 9:39 pm

    If you can’t explain where does this “spirituality” come from or how do we know it even exists, then it is incompatible with science

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  11. C J Titan

    April 10, 2018 9:40 pm

    It could when people accept the fact that no one knows what comes after this life and if there is a god.

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  12. Levi Pack

    April 10, 2018 9:49 pm

    Offputting. Can't quite put my finger on it, but I definitely feel slimy after hearing him speak. It may be that he's almost always halfway smiling, which is something I've noticed, that people do, when someone is trying to sell me something.

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  13. Dustin Hansford

    April 10, 2018 10:05 pm

    I like the overall message but faith and science can't coexist. Laurence krauss explains this best by saying that faith is not a scientific word and should be replaced by varying degrees of likeliness. Something can be very likely or less likely but faith implies an unquantifiable quality to something. For example, it is highly likely that earth is round, it is less likely a man walked on water.

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  14. This freakin Guy

    April 10, 2018 10:50 pm

    Science and faith can exist.the more we find out the more amazing and complex the universe is. I do believe some sort of Sentient consciousness started existence. Science shows how intricate and amazing the universe is. The more information there is and the more we discover, the more I think that things are so complicated that there has to be a consciousness that started it all. But what do I know. Just my opinion

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  15. James L

    April 10, 2018 11:13 pm

    Science explains how things work…Spirituality is something else. Faith is about getting someone through life because they can't handle life directly and unfiltered. Faith isn't rational and it's often unsubstantiated. Further, it's often conflated with culture and it's norms and used to control others. Spirituality? I guess it's fine as long as you keep the magic and make believe out of it.

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  16. UFOhunter

    April 11, 2018 12:01 am

    Science is absolute truth, spirituality and religion is not.
    I believe in science, the rest is mambo-jumbo that will be explained by science one day.
    MS, cancer and all other diseases WILL be cured one day, thanks to science, not spirituality or prayers.
    Spirituality might score you a booty call, since women are superstitious story believers, and love this shit.
    Life is not a gift if its not wanted. I never asked for this life and to live among egomaniacs and liars!
    If you met your other half, you were not complete to begin with. That's on you.

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  17. PirateKitty

    April 11, 2018 12:05 am

    "You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts."
    Science is about facts. Not opinions like spirituality and religion, where the sentence starts with; "I think".

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  18. Joshua

    April 11, 2018 12:29 am

    Warning, there are a lot of #triggered nihilists in the comment section who think that ratiocination and awe are mutually exclusive and dichotomous.

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  19. Virtual Willis

    April 11, 2018 12:34 am

    What is a spirit made of? How much does it weigh? Is there a way to test for it that is reproducible? How does it interact with Karma? Oh you forgot about Karma? Oh you think karma is a silly concept made up by those cookie religious people far away… Funny that's the same way most of us feel about spirit and soul and all of that mumbo jumbo.

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  20. João Paulo Mota

    April 11, 2018 12:42 am

    I am sorry Big Think. I love your videos but this one is not helpful or insightful are at all. He did everything BUT answer the question. In my opinion, science tries to answer "how", spirituality/religion/philosophy try to answer why. They are too different things.

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  21. asem al balawe

    April 11, 2018 12:43 am

    No .. any missing information will be filled by science .. it's a matter of time .
    that lady who had an ill child , science can help her maybe not much now but in the near future yes .

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  22. Came from Heaven

    April 11, 2018 12:49 am

    Science is the researching physical aspect of how things work and react..Whereas Spirituality is transformation from physics to Source of Physics.

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  23. Don Allen III

    April 11, 2018 1:05 am

    I think eventually science can and will explain all aspects of spirituality. Including emotions, sense of self, death, consciousness, soul, and faith. I think we are a very VERY long way from knowing it all …so the faith ideologies are nice to have while we "sapiens" wait for more discoveries to be made. The fictional stories we agree on do help humans cope with our harsh reality of death and our brief existence in life. Also spirituality can be a great practice in cultural patience in search of the truth. I find a lot of meaning in life from science which is similar to those that find meaning in spiritually.

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  24. Came from Heaven

    April 11, 2018 1:13 am

    In Hinduism, Universal Guru Sri Aadi ShankaraAcharya told there are five Stages of Transformation from Physical Body to Spiritual Body… The Theory goes like this:
    1. Annamaya Kosha means A Living Body eating Food.
    2. Pranamaya Kosha means A Body living Through Oxigen.
    3.Gnana Maya Kosham means A body living both by Oxigen and By Knowledge.
    4. Vighnana maya Kosham means an existence living through Knowledge as well as Understanding The Intricacies of Knowledge…the entire body becomes Knowledge.
    5. Aananda maya Kosham means Evolving from Knowledge and becoming Bliss Of Only Happiness.
    And I found another Stage of evolving…that is Aathma maya Kosham.. means, Becoming Supernatural and enjoying endless Happiness.
    Thereafter comes Brahma maya.. means Becoming Angel God
    Then comes Para Brahma maya.. means Becoming OmniPotent and Omnipresence whereby one becomes God of all above said and exists anywhere and every where.

    To achieve all these one must have a Great Guru who has already achieved all the above said Transformation Stages.
    Even after this there are 3 more Levels of Supremacy those can't be told in words Because Words can express until the above mentioned levels. Hence after One Cuts of all dimensional bondage and explains himself to himself by the extacy of experiences.

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  25. Liz Lemon

    April 11, 2018 1:23 am

    They cannot coexist because science is real (based on facts) and spirituality is made up. If you identify as a "spiritual" person you are irrational.

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  26. Wtf! Am I actually right?

    April 11, 2018 1:41 am

    It's philosophical and the word 'spiritual' is a highly questionable word, even in philosophy.

    Spiritual is a word that has no use in science,,, what are you talking about man!!!

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  27. AW Crowe

    April 11, 2018 2:04 am

    Science has made exponential progress in understanding the nature of the universe in the 500 years or less that it has been around. Spirituality is no further than it was 5000 years ago at explaining the universe. Spirituality exists at the edges of our understanding and keeps getting pushed back as science draws back the veil of ignorance that spirituality uses to explain that which we once saw only dimly and with speculation. Where science refines and rejects as new evidence is presented spirituality digs in and entrenches itself in the face of contradictory evidence. No there is no conflict there.

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  28. DroopyOfTheNorthwestMounted

    April 11, 2018 2:11 am

    Spirituality? I have yet to find a definition of the word that isn't synonymous with religion.

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  29. Lorde

    April 11, 2018 2:52 am

    What is the point of putting all this energy towards a work??? Well, in my case, I am very passionate for not starving till death.

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  30. Connect to Soul

    April 11, 2018 3:53 am

    Thank you for your amazing sustained knowledge, devotion as well as enlightenment to boost my experience to turning out to be more consciously aware as well as spiritually connected.

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  31. John Peace-Miller

    April 11, 2018 5:25 am

    If you define spirituality as emotions without anything to do with a metaphysical spirit or spirit realm. Then science doesn't conflict but these spiritual claims can be scientifically tested.

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  32. Michele Nakamura

    April 11, 2018 5:55 am

    It's interesting that you used "spirituality" instead of "religious beliefs" . I'm going to guess that was done on purpose but that's ok. For someone where God created the earth (?) in 7 days (7 – 24 hour days) this is good. I've always said to science naysayers regarding the 7 day stuff "who said that Gods day is our 24 hour day?" Shuts them up.

    You can be an atheist or agnostic AND be spiritual.

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  33. CosmicF

    April 11, 2018 7:58 am

    I like the way Rob is expressing himself however ultimately he fell in 'love' due to various attributes that triggered chemicals in his brain to form a bond. Also, the lady who's child was diagnosed with MS does not need a prayer or a hug or kind thoughts, she needs a cure for MS that science can ultimately provide. I'm fine with a certain definition of 'spirituality' living in harmony with science, but lets not kid ourselves that all of the answers we all seek won't eventually be derived through science exclusively.

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  34. Xenogene Gray

    April 11, 2018 9:05 am

    What that woman needs is not that ritualised BS he suggests, she needs science to come up with a cure for MS.

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  35. David Dann

    April 11, 2018 9:58 am

    Science can help you find meaning, trouble is lot of people don't know what science is. Science is a way of thinking, a way to help you arrive at a conclusion. People might give up finding meaning in trying to reduce human suffering or, restore the environment because they don't know how it can be done. So then they turn the self, which is funny because spirituality in a broad definition means 'a relationship with something bigger than yourself'. So science can shape your meaning.

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  36. king vegeta

    April 11, 2018 10:21 am

    I got a question for bill nye is it possibable other life forms exist not counting anything that life on earth

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  37. Neil Rieck

    April 11, 2018 11:15 am

    Quote: "Politics and religion are obsolete. The time has come for science and spirituality."
    Often quoted by Arthur C. Clarke as one of his favorite remarks of Jawaharlal Nehru, (who was attempting to nudge India into the direction of non-violence and tolerance), some of the earliest citations indicate that Nehru may himself been either quoting or paraphrasing a statement of Vinoba Bhave.

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  38. SmellMyKKPP

    April 11, 2018 12:56 pm

    I think it's mostly strong atheists who see science and spirituality as forces opposed to each other, and that perception is much stronger in the West because not only is Atheism much more present in Western culture, but also because of the history of the Catholic church.

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  39. glamdrag

    April 11, 2018 1:12 pm

    I've come to find out that to me spirituality and science are very similar, while I'm positive that a lot of people use a very different definition with the term 'spirituality'. That's why I try to avoid that term all together.

    Also there's absolutely no need for spirituality to be considered scientific. If people see it, they will see it. I've learned so many important things that REALLY matter in the past 10 months trough insights, meditation and mindfulness, more than I have in the past 10 years while being totally obsessed with science.

    It's a constant search for truth trough trial and error, setting a hypothesis, exploring, adjusting to new concepts, or rather seeing the foolishness in old ones. Seems very sciency to me 🙂

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  40. Indomitus1973

    April 11, 2018 5:49 pm

    Science is a methodology. Religion acts directly in contradiction to that methodology. They are not compatible without one being severely compromised.
    The idea that a meaning even exists is a religious one. When science asks "why" it is only searching for causality.

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  41. Highlyskeptical

    April 11, 2018 11:17 pm

    Pop open a few skulls, microtome the brains dendrite by dendrite, figure out how thoughts are formed, like how we think we can explore how our brains feelings work through confirmation bias, and figure out how to fix the wiring.
    And then find the answer was to make Big Think videos to calm the emotionally ruled while they eliminate everything but reason, while the scientists listen to altruistic genes to welcome them back.

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  42. bamischijfje123

    April 12, 2018 12:33 am

    If spirituality is something that is not related to the truth, you're basically saying "spirituality is bullshit". I found it incredibly awesome to find out that meditation is scientifically proven to be good for you.

    So what you CAN say is "although we don't know the facts, spirituality is still good for you based on those unknown facts". That is what I believe

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  43. Anthony Demayo

    April 12, 2018 12:33 am

    Newton and Clark Maxwell had no problem with these 'separate, but equal' matter's, just for starters.

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  44. nuberiffic

    April 12, 2018 3:17 am

    No.
    Science and spirituality are in direct conflict with each other.
    They are literal opposites.

    Science is about taking a rigorous, academic approach to truth seeking through comprehensive methods of error checking.

    Spirituality is just feeling good about stuff – it has never even been given a solid definition

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  45. Adwien 5761

    April 12, 2018 5:03 pm

    The only comparable element I see shared between science and spirituality (aka faith) is one of intuitive inquisition. They perhaps borrow from one another to interpret the world to some extent, yet follow vastly different methodologies for producing outcomes aimed at assessing entangled versions of "The Truth". Although one relies heavily on anecdata while the other utilizes data pulled from its exclusive reserve of valid experimentation and relative source material.

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  46. Christoph G.

    April 12, 2018 10:02 pm

    We originated from chemical reactions and are driven by chemical reactions. Spirituality is the result of chemical reactions in our brain. That's it why talking for 7 minutes in circles. 3:06 faith might be looking for something but I am 99.99999% sure it will not find any truth. There is a slight possibility that faith finds the truth but it is not much better than guessing.

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  47. Meymeygwis

    April 13, 2018 12:26 am

    He defines spirituality as that which, "isn't accessed through the 5 senses". This is a philosophical error; perhaps if he'd put in the word, "only" his perspective would have been on less philosophically shaky ground. He shares many fine and wonderful things; however, spirituality and the physical world need not be separate realms of experience. Indeed, these are exalted in their unification.

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  48. Alberto Sánchez Ortiz

    April 13, 2018 12:39 am

    I can't believe in the last video with this guy I didn't notice he was a complete moron.

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  49. Sean Godbehere

    April 13, 2018 2:06 am

    Absolute horse shit. More religious circle talk that goes nowhere and has no weight behind it. WTH Big Think?

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  50. Ethan Wheeler

    April 13, 2018 2:30 am

    This is precisely why science and "spirituality" can't reconcile. His entire argument rests on vague assumptions, mostly because he's an imperfect creation of evolution. We can all think, but we always pine for some greater meaning that will never be found. And we are doomed to sit here in an absurd world.

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  51. SempaiPete

    April 13, 2018 9:24 am

    Great video! However, I disagree with one point Mr. Bell made. Science is indeed searching for answers, and quite regularly finding them. Religion claims to have all the answers already. They are fundamentally opposite, and cannot be assimilated intellectually in my opinion.

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  52. James Apperson

    April 13, 2018 7:41 pm

    `If you mean Abrahamic religion, then you're wrong. Those are not compatible with science.

    But if you mean something else by it, then I agree "it just depends" on what you mean.

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  53. DangerousPie03

    April 13, 2018 10:09 pm

    The answers to these questions are not spiritual, they are biological. People have a drive to do work because the ones that didn't died off. If you don't do work, you don't reproduce. You fell in love with your wife because your subconscious has a strong urge to reproduce and it thought her genes would be the best attainable to combine with yours. Those who do not develop a psychological addiction to another person are not very likely to reproduce. At least save spirituality for the unexplained, if you have to have it.

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  54. malcolmthebear

    April 14, 2018 1:00 am

    Kristen Bell married this guy? I think she would've done better with Hans.

    Bob Bell seems to have never heard of neuropsychology. A lot of what he's positing has no scientific definition or evidence actually DOES have scientific definitions and evidence if you delve into brain science.

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  55. Judeo-Bolshevik

    April 14, 2018 4:14 pm

    Faith doesn't search nor explore.
    Faith never welcomes doubting and questioning what was established once, even if it's proved to be inadequate.

    Science, on the other hand, never settles for the old conclusions that turned out to be erroneous.

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  56. adtc

    April 14, 2018 5:04 pm

    Can you stop putting these wishie washies on your show and start putting ACTUAL scientists instead? This is not Big Believe, it's supposed to be Big Think.

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  57. maxena47

    April 15, 2018 1:01 am

    science and spiritually can absolutely Coexist , lots of great scientists were religious and yet it never stopped them from discovering new theories and breakthroughs, you have Michael faraday who was a Christian, Einstein was Jewish list goes on, these days some 12 year old that watched couple TED TALKs claims to be a scientist and start attacking religion such ignorance.

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  58. Leonidas GGG

    April 15, 2018 1:40 pm

    Spirituality is not that difficult. Here's an example: "quantify" what you feel when listening to a song…

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  59. Oliver Carson

    April 15, 2018 6:44 pm

    Bring Michio and Bill Nye back!!!! Big Think kinda been off track for awhile. I was drawn to this channel because of the incredible minds. No offense to ole boy here

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  60. Joshua Lao

    April 16, 2018 11:48 am

    We all have a brain. Conscious experience happens in the brain. Spirituality is a conscious human experience. Therefore, spirituality happens in the brain. If he doesn't understand this, then he doesn't know how the brain works.

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  61. AnthicusZithna

    April 16, 2018 8:28 pm

    "Spiritual" is a useless word. It's used when you don't know how to describe something and everyone has a different understanding of it. You may just change it with "tha shit" and it would work the same way.

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  62. Jake Summerhayes

    April 17, 2018 6:44 pm

    I’ve always thought the same thing but of science and art not science and spirituality.
    I think spirituality is a word to describe our mental state and our state of being or soul of you will.
    Where as art is the best tool used to explore our spirituality just as science is the best tool used to explore and understand the universe.
    They are two sides of the same coin and both are equally important.

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  63. Philip

    April 18, 2018 5:20 am

    But if science and spirituality are both equally acceptable, then how am I supposed to prove that I'm more intelligent than other people on the internet?

    I mean, what's the point of learning all this nerdy science mumbo jumbo if I can't use it to make myself feel superior than everyone else?

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  64. cybersekkin

    April 21, 2018 4:02 am

    Why not, For the same reason, you hide that you were a pastor. Because what most try to do by sneaking in spirituality is to tie us to religion. Wonder, Awe, and hope are all great but I am not going to let you try to force some religious baggage on me for them.

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  65. Ismael Benitez

    April 23, 2018 4:45 pm

    This was painful to listen to. 
    Science is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe.
    In your case, you’re describing spirituality as something larger than human understanding – it appears as magical and transcendent of all rational ideas. 
    Spirituality and science can NOT coexist

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  66. ThePanchoys

    May 3, 2018 1:41 am

    That's funny how all this puny spiritualists call their subjective perception and incomplete knowledge with serious words like "another way of knowing things". That's also funny how they ignore the fact that neutosciences can describe their inner states.

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  67. Maram Alfakori

    May 26, 2018 3:32 pm

    science can experiment all they want. but I have never seen them do any miracles or try one because they know the truth belongs to the one who holds all creations JESUS CHRIST . I HAVE SEEN U RESURRECTION, i came back to live . when I meet Christ . the true living son of God you can run from this truth but either you live under the with the spirit of the light or the darkness ..and if your not with the light you already made your choice.

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  68. Maram Alfakori

    May 26, 2018 3:44 pm

    but JESUS LOVES U ALL AND OF YOU CALL ON HIM YOU WILL FEEL HIS PRESENCE HE CAN KICK THE DARKNESS IS BUTT NOTHING GOOD WAITS THOSE AWAY FROM GOD SEE That's THE EVIL ONE WANTS TO TAKE US AWAY. FROM GOD..AND DESTROY US IN HELL LATER..HEAVEN AND HELL EXIST I PRAY U CHOOSE JESUS ITS SIMPLE REALLY ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SAY JESUS PLEASE COME IN MY HEART FORGIVE ME OF MT SIN AND I WILL FOLLOW U AS MY LORD U WILL SEE THE PRESENCE OF KING OF KINGS JESUS CHRIST ..HIS WILL SET U FREE AND YOU WILL BE APART OF HIS FAMILY OUR FAMILY IF YOU ARE SICK YOU WILL CAN BE HEALED U WILL FIND HOPE TRUTH . PEACE THAT U NEVER EVER FEEL IIT OVERCOME ALL THINGS BE BLESSED KNOW THAT YOUR NAME IS WRITTEN AND CHILDREN..BLOOD IF JESUS COVERS U FROM EVIL..GUARANTEE NO MORE CURSES ON U..GO TO YOUR NEAR SET CHURCH..GOD BLESS U I LOVE U GOD LOVES U..THIS IS SAID IN LOVE GOD STANDS ON THE DOOR OF YOUR HEART AND KNOCKS OPEN THE DOOR TO HIM NOR BY FORCE BY CHOICE ..DONT WAIT TILL ITS TOO LATE THEN . HEAVEN.IS INTERNAL SO IS HELL I PRAY U GET SAVED NOW ASK GOD TO HELP U KNOW DON'T WAIT.

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  69. Daniel

    July 31, 2018 10:15 am

    If people run from the word spiritual because crazy things have been done, then why don't they run from the word science? Here is a relatively recent scientific practice, transorbital lobotomy. That's when they'd stick a large needle into your eye and wriggle it around in your brain, yes wriggle was the scientific term used, to "cure" things like depression. The scientists that invented that back in the seventies won a Nobel price. Not crazy at all, right? And that's just one example, there are tons more, everything from torturing animals to skinning people alive to weapons of mass destruction that can end all life on Earth. So yeah, I doubt people run away from the word spiritual because it's done some crazy stuff, it's nothing compared to the crazy science has done.

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  70. Shipwright

    September 18, 2018 2:25 pm

    Open mindedness is an absolute necessity in the search for truth. The unicorn of the comments section. 🦄 😁

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  71. Rick Malchow

    February 10, 2019 10:42 pm

    I see the conflict as being artificial and political, a way to mobilize people in a certain way. Religion is masterful in this regard, and the conflict is abetted by those who have turned science into a religion. I can be confident of only two statements as to the ultimate nature of God or reality – (1) I don't know (2) Either do you.

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  72. D. Engelbrecht

    October 11, 2019 10:12 am

    If you believe you loved someone truly and unselfishnessly and only for one second in your life you already believe in something supernatural. Because such love can not exist in the world of the egoistic gene and full determinism.

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  73. Avdhoot Mohite

    October 27, 2019 9:29 am

    Science is about dissecting the material world and matter , spirituality is about dissecting the mind and consciousness.

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