Was Shiva An Alien? Kangana Ranaut asks Sadhguru #MahaShivRatri2020

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When you talk about Shiva, there is no parentage.
There is no place of birth. It’s very common to refer to Shiva as Yakshaswarupa. Yakshas means
always those kind of beings which are not human, Kangna Ranaut: So, all the enlightened people
who’ve been… Sadhguru: How many did you meet? Kangna Ranaut: Like I’ve heard about many. Like
you know, say Krishna or Mohammad or Ram or Christ, Buddha you know, all the enlightened
people who’ve been on this planet, there is some sort of mention of their birth or death.
But when it comes to Shiva, like you say he… and I’ve read that he was self-created. And I often
ask you this question, that… that did he like disappear into thin air and apparently something
like that happened. He couldn’t even have biological children with any of
the women he was married to. Also he… he… Sadhguru: At least you can’t blame him
for the population. Kangna Ranaut: Sadhguru! I’m coming to something
very important, there is a theory… (Laughter). Sadhguru: I thought population was very important too. Kangna Ranaut: No, no, no. There is a theory
that Shiva is alien. My favorite director Christopher Nolan made this film
“Interstellar” which is one of my favorite films, where they are constantly referring to certain beings
as “they.” They are communicating, they are talking to us, they are doing this but they
never really clarified who they were, like were they aliens, were they gods, who they were.
And Sadhguru like I think I’ve felt it. Like when any creative idea comes to me,
it has absolutely no intellectual grounds where I can go back and track it down. It’s literally
like a mail dropped in my head. It seems like it’s from an outside space… Sadhguru: This is not a confession, don’t… Kangna Ranaut: I know it’s a confession
but… but Sadhguru is it that we are being operated by an external sort of outside beings?
Is it that ? Sadhguru: Well, people who have no faith in human
intelligence are looking up that intelligence will come from somewhere else.
What we need to understand is, see, there are certain things which are very significant
things in this country, which unfortunately this present generation has completely forgotten
or very few people are reminded, and the rest of the world, some places they
recognized, rest of the places, it’s not there. What the thing is just this, here we considered
things like this, for example in yoga, we call your spine the center of the universe,
we call it merudanda, that means it’s the axis of the universe.
What is a universe, please understand this. Today scientists are admitting it is an
endless universe. Forever we’ve been saying it’s an ever expanding universe. So we said your
spine is the axis of the universe, that sounds ridiculous. Even without putting any load most people’s
backs are hurting badly. They can’t even walk or run or do anything. If this
becomes the axis of the universe, what’ll happen! Why we’re saying this is, see, you know
there is a universe or you think there is a universe only by your experience, isn’t it so? If you did
not experience, if you could not see this, if you could not see like this and feel like this,
you wouldn’t know there is a universe. Only because of your experience there is a universe,
and the center where your experience is being transmitted is
through your spine. If we cut a few wires in your spine, you’ll have no experience even of the body,
forget about the universe. So, because your ability to experience the universe
is rooted and centered in your spine, we are calling your spine as the axis of
the universe. Suppose this hall… See, now we know the boundaries of this hall.
Now we can debate whether this is the center of this hall or that is the center of this hall.
Suppose there are no boundaries to this hall, how would you decide which is the center of this hall?
Where you are is the center of the hall, isn’t it? From this basis we developed a whole possibility
for a human being, how not just to believe these things but to make it
into a living experience. It is from this, the word yoga
came, that the inclusiveness happens, not because I tell you “oh, I love you, you
love me” and all this stuff. Inclusiveness happens, simply because you
obliterate the boundaries of your individuality. Not because I love you, you love me. I hug,
you hug me, because we are inclusive. No! All that will last for some time, tomorrow if they do
something that you don’t like, it’ll be finished. But you obliterate the boundaries of your
individual nature, including your body that you know how to sit here without being identified
with the boundaries of who you are. Your physical structure, your mental structure,
your emotional structure has a boundary it may be large or small. No, I’m not talking about
body being large. It may be large or small, but it has a boundary. But there are dimensions
which have no boundary. What doesn’t have a boundary is non-physical in nature. So our focus is always been on that dimension
which is non-physical. That is why Shiva became the most important
thing, because Shi-va means that which is not. That which is non-physical. Now, the yogi that
we are talking about, is he a human being, did he come from somewhere else? See, there
are things… As you said, there is no parentage. When you talk about Shiva, there is no parentage.
There is no place of birth. Nobody saw him as a young boy to grow up. All the
time when we saw him, he was about the same age. And we don’t know where he died, such a
significant human being even in those times, if he died somewhere they should have built a
temple, they should have built some kind of a monument for him
nothing like that happened. So, there is no birth, there is no death, there is
no parentage, there is no siblings, there is no anything to prove that he was here.
Does it mean to say we can assume he came from somewhere? Not necessarily,
but if you look at the lore, it’s very common to refer to Shiva as Yakshaswarupa.
This means Yakshas means always those kind of beings which are not human,
but who supposed to have existed in the natural environment in this planet in the
forest and other things. Whatever we were referring to some kind of
beings or creatures or whatever you want to call them, who are not human in nature. So many, many
times in the lore, you will see any number of songs and other things talking about Shiva as a
Yakshaswarupa. So there are many things which point, but
there is no specific proof that he came from elsewhere.

 

100 Responses

  1. Praveen Bachu

    February 8, 2020 11:55 am

    Whoever liked the question or whatever you think of it and about Kangana! Damn care!!! Ive respect to her for showing her big heart in donating huge amount for Tree plantations…one need big heart for such thing…

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  2. D J

    February 8, 2020 12:46 pm

    If we have a Sane mind or pleasant mind or intense mind then whether Shiva is alien 👽 or not what does it matter… Only insane mind or low on energy minds looking to get high all the time will look for drama all around ..

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  3. Kamalakar Patil

    February 8, 2020 1:11 pm

    Sad‌guru I can’t understand to spend your intellect with the lady who don’t know the abc of spirituality !

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  4. Kaizen guy

    February 8, 2020 2:00 pm

    🔴C A U T I O N🔴
    You are about to get addicted to a wise old man

    but,its a good addiction💓💓🙏

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  5. Mr. Anonymous

    February 8, 2020 3:51 pm

    Thank you very much for being on this platform sir whenever i hear you i gain knowledge and some mental peace.

    Reply
  6. SADHAK ब्रह्मचारी

    February 8, 2020 4:40 pm

    This women must have some defects in her head and is having no sense of Spirituality but thinks she knows many things. She is putting Krishna (🙏) and mahammad in same category!😠

    Reply
  7. Ithuriel's Spear Zion

    February 8, 2020 4:40 pm

    Maybe there was no temple built for Shiva because he was not accepted when he walked? The people most likely rejected him because he came within someone who lived among the people, maybe thats why there is no mention of his childhood. Maybe its just a person downloading his consciousness?

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  8. Davi R

    February 8, 2020 9:01 pm

    Theres no proof he's not extra-terrestrial is like saying there's no proof he existed…. of course he is extra-terrestrial, just like the dracos, Pleiades, Annunaki, nordics that all ancient cultures speak of visiting them. He doesn't want to Say E.T. b-c he is hugely famous & it will ruin his reputation!

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  9. Herman Karsowidjojo

    February 8, 2020 9:14 pm

    The UNIVERSE Is Expanding ??!!

    It, Means, 3 Yugas, AGO, The Spaces, between, the Galaxies, were, much smaller.

    * And consequently, also, the Interplanetary distances ? PLANET MARS, Was Orbiting, Thus, Where, The Current, Moon, Is, NOW !

    And The Moon, Near OUR balcony !

    REGARDS,

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  10. Varun Awasthi

    February 8, 2020 9:28 pm

    Shiva is "EVERYTHING AND NOTHING" as simple as that… 😇😇😇
    All of his 10,000 names are just "AVATARS" :-
    "MAHAKAAL" the greatest… 😇
    हर हर महादेव
    🔱 🔱 🔱

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  11. A Rahul

    February 8, 2020 9:55 pm

    They clarified who 'they' were… They were the humans from the future who had crossed the limit of 4 dimensions.

    Reply
  12. Mian Writes

    February 9, 2020 12:26 am

    The Important spiritual sentence is ready for you: you would be happy when you would read.


    ..
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     You can read it from the first article on My St , which is available from my CHNl .

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  13. Aja Word

    February 9, 2020 12:37 am

    The source of true intelligence is available for you while you do not creating problems.

    This is the case with the Divine also: While you are this way, it is there for you.
    On mycHn-l you can read more.

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  14. Hai Bengaluru.

    February 9, 2020 2:32 am

    Sadghuru who is your next? We need hundreds of you. To this beautiful nation. I want to build a time machine and wait for British to come in Kochi with AK 47 in my hand.

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  15. Ashish

    February 9, 2020 3:08 am

    We are more than this world. Govt, people in power are hiding things.

    Every individual has the capabilities of thinking, people forget that they have consciousness which has the power to perceive this universe. Yet 99% ask for answer from others while the answer is within them. And I am not saying any bs here it's true and people have to see on their own.

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  16. Anshuman Raturi

    February 9, 2020 8:06 am

    Jesus said he is the son of God
    Mohammad said he is the messenger of God
    But during mahabharat ,when arjun asked sri Krishna about who Krishna is?
    Krishna replied"arjun i am God"

    Reply
  17. Sarthak Pal

    February 9, 2020 10:17 am

    Shiva had 5 children and his wife was Parvati then how can Kangana saying that He had no biological children and why is Sadhguru agreeing with her?

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  18. ronak kothari

    February 9, 2020 12:05 pm

    He is that teacher who would not give you answer but would show you the path.
    He never answer your question.

    Reply
  19. All Topics Guruji

    February 10, 2020 8:33 pm

    मेने सद्गुरु की ढेर सारी वीडियो देखी सुनी हिंदी और इंग्लिश ओर मेने एक चीज़ जानी की सद्गुरु के पास सब बातों का जवाब नही होता जैसे कि ओशो के पास हर बात का जवाब होता है,और सद्गुरु को हिंदी अच्छे से बोलनी ओर समझनी आती है लेकिन वो इसलिए नही बोलते की कोई आम इंसान उनसे कुछ पूछ न ले जिसका जवाब वो न दे पाए।सद्गुरु सिर्फ वही जवाब दे पाते है जिकी वो तैयारी करके आते है आप मानो या न मानो वो काफी हद तक ओशो को भी फॉलो करते है

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  20. All Topics Guruji

    February 10, 2020 9:08 pm

    आप शिवा को ग्रेट गॉड कह कर अपनि नासमझी दिखा रहे है क्योंकि ऐसा कहने का मतलब है कि आप शिव को जानते ही नही शिव किसी अवतार का नाम नही शिव का मतलब निराकार है उसकी कोई सूरत नही है जैसे हमने भगवान के कई नाम रखे है प्यार के कारण जैसे अल्लाह वाहेगुरु गोड परमात्मा ऐसे ही हमने शिव भगवान के लिए नाम रखा है और पुराने जमाने मे लोग भगवान या परमात्मा की जगह शिव कहते थे।और हम जब शिव बोलते है तो हम अपने मन मे शंकर भोले की तस्वीर ले आते है और शिव को शंकर समझ बेठते है लेकिन यही गलती ओर नासमझी है क्योंकि शिव भगवान को कहते है और शंकर एक योगी थे और शंकर एक बहोत बड़े योगी थे जो एक इंसान के रूप में धरती पे आये थे और वो बहोत बड़े ऋषि ओर योगी होने के कारण लोगो ने उनके नाम के साथ भगवान यानी शिव का नाम जोड़ दिया और लोग उन्ही योगी शंकर को शिव समझने लगे गए।बस यही समझने की जरूरत है आपको।शिव निराकार है उसका कोई रूप रंग आकार नही है।शंकर का जन्म हुआ था वो छोटे थे फिर बड़े हुए और फिर मृत्यु हो गयी।क्योंकि शरीर को जाना होता है।ओर यह इतनी पुरानी बात है शायद कोई यह नही बता सकता कि शंकर का जन्म और मृत्यु कब हुई और जो बात जितनी हज़ार साल पुरानी होती है उसके साथ उतनी कहानिया जुड़ती जाती है ना उनको किसी ने देखा और न उनके द्वारा या उनके किसी भक्त के द्वारा कुछ लिखा गया है ।जितनी भी शिव के बारे में पुस्तक है वो तो अब कुछ 4 पांच सौ साल पहले लिखी गयी है।और शंकर को आये तो पता ही नही के कब आये थे और जो आता है वो शरीर होता है क्योंकि वो चला जाता है।ओर अगर आप यह बहस करोगे की शंकर किसी योगी या इंसान का नाम नही था वो हमेशा है तो जो कभी आया था उसी की स्टोरी ओर गाथा होती है अगर ऐसा न होता तो वो आज भी होते और अगर टैब मौजूद थे जिस कारण लोग मिलते थे उनसे तो अब कुछ हजार से एक बार भी क्यों नही दखाई दिए क्योंकि तब तो धरती पे थे और योग करते थे अपने शरीर पर विभूति लगते थे और गले मे रुद्राक्ष पहने थे और उनके गले मे साँप होता थे कुछ पहनने के लिए शरीर होता है और भगवान जो निराकार हर समय मौजूद है जो जिसको हम कोई नाम भी दे दे उसे शिव कहले या परमात्मा उसका कोई रूप रंग नही होता और वो न कुछ पहनता है और न किसी पर्वत या छोटी पे बैठता है परमात्मा सर्वव्यपी होता है कोई शरीर नही।इसलिए थोड़ा सोचो समझो ओर बहस की बजाए खुद का दिमाग लगाओ सुनी सुनाई बातों और लिखी हुई किताबो पे मत जाओ किताबे ओर कहानिया इंसान की बनाई गई है

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  21. Grotten Skeksi

    February 11, 2020 4:18 am

    She says that if she has an idea she wonders if it was planted in her by another being. Well, in psychiatry these sort of thoughts are associated with schizophrenia. But a more likely possibility is that these idea arise from her subconscious mind, the mind is always processing things in the background, and then spitting them up into consciousness. It may seem out of nowhere, but it came from within. These sorts of things are explained well in "the mind illuminated"

    It doesnt seem like sadhguru ever answered that specific question of hers, about where her ideas originate, why they seem to come out of nowhere. Could have lead them down an interesting avenue of discussion.

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  22. Sachin Managoli

    February 11, 2020 6:35 am

    In Vishnu puran, Vishnu and all Jivas or atmas were there as time less, not created and distroyed. What is the term as Alien, anything which is not familiar to us is Alien, In USA all the expats are called as Alien, So All Hindu gods are very much from this universe and from the great Lord Shri Hari Vishnu.

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  23. Shishir Kumar

    February 11, 2020 6:59 pm

    'They' in the movie Interstellar was the lead actor himself . Go and watch whole movie
    ओम नमः शिवाय

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  24. Mrunal goswami

    February 12, 2020 12:42 am

    I am also Enlightened and Ms. Kangana your all questions are baseless and foreigners viewing this as research subject. You can never be with Shiva with all your education. You need lot of learning on spirituality. You can call me I can advise you some meditation to forget and correct your Mann buddhi..

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  25. Mrunal goswami

    February 12, 2020 12:53 am

    Shadhugurji I understand your responses and you are true and trying to explain people who may not be qualifying for the subject. But, I feel pity for those who pose you such questions. I am open for any questions on spirituality. Please do not adultrate atleast HINDUISM and our knowledge about SHIVA, VIshnu and other parmatma Tatva. I don't know hindi or gujarati typing else I would have written more words in our mother tongue. English is not the right language for Indians who's mother toungue is hindi or gujarati or other state language. We should learn about god and divine GYAN in our mother tongue language so that we can understand it properly. As such we are now too much obsessed with lot of education and worldly possession and this tough knowledge of aatma and parmatma, bhagvan, dharma, Dhyangyog, bhaktiyog in English is hard to grasp.

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  26. Phy Gourav

    February 13, 2020 4:40 pm

    Some god made univese and humans also.

    Some humans (S E I, we call) made robotos
    Robots may make………….. God and time machine.

    This cycles repeate itself.

    Because now it is proven that we can't beat AI in memorising or chess.1st level of AI.

    Then who makes the first thing?
    so all is time pass.and.

    most of us don't know how this mobile works.

    Why i want that all the people belive that i beliebe.
    I don't know. It is also going here.

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  27. Phy Gourav

    February 13, 2020 4:55 pm

    Wastage of time but i have so much time to waste.
    Because we all know we don't knowwwwww.
    Because

    enrgy+matter(mc2)=constant

    How this constant quantity come from nothing?
    No one knows.
    From answering this we must change CONSTANT TO VARIABLE

    SO PHYSICS BECOME MORE DANGEROUS AND ITS EQUATIONS ALSO.
    AND OUR MOBILE PHONES VANISHED
    How 4m people can hear thees things always

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  28. Shivam Agarwal

    February 15, 2020 6:15 am

    Atleast you can't blame him for the population… Hahahahahaha what a humour😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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  29. Avantika Roy

    February 16, 2020 5:51 am

    Interstellar wasn't even about aliens. Ot was about dimension of past becoming "they". And that came into a director's mind dosen't mean it's true. Connecting fictional to reality and spirituality is dumb. She is dissapointing that's why sadhguru was joking listening to her.

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